Archive for the ‘Fedora’ Category

Review of Fedora 8!

Wednesday, November 14th, 2007

UPDATE(November15th2007): in this article I am not saying that yum is out of date only the gui for the package manager.

Here is a review of Fedora 8 code named ‘Werewolf ‘!

I downloaded the DVD version of Fedora 8. In this guide I will give tips about the installation, customization, and for you that have nvidia graphics cards you will get to know how the installation went for that.

The installation went well, though it did take 45 minutes to install all of the development, regular and some other packages. In total there were 1089 packages to download and to install. It all went fine and was almost as fast as the 35 minute CentOS which had less packages to install. Since it only takes 45 minutes I was able to work on some non computer work.
Customization, hmmm, the customization is ok while you work, though its gets worse over time. The so called “changing background” that changes according to the time of the day, well lets just say this, it didn’t change at all. I went through a bunch of customizations. I changed the window themes, the color of the themes, and the folder themes also. Overall the themes were just not as appealing as I thought they should have been. I have been using the new Fedora 8 for more then 5 days. Fedora 8 was also on my laptop which was powered on for 48 hours while I was updating it, changing how it looked, and writing this review also.

So far I believe that I can say that it is an OK distro to try again if you have already tried it, though there is not as much innovation going on as in Ubuntu. If I was working on the Fedora team I would try to put a better package manager since it looks way out of date.

If there was any new innovation it should be seen within the next few releases of Fedora and Redhat.

Well now we’re on to the Nvidia graphics card driver installation. The Nvidia graphics driver is really just like CentOS, I just need to figure out how to stop the xserver. So far I would say that with other Distros like Ubuntu, I could just with a click of a button install the graphics driver with the restricted manager. Though I am not that experienced with Fedora, or CentOS, or even OpenSuSE, I can say that I would probably figure it out over time.

Overall I would give this release of Fedora a 3/5 smilies 😀 😀 😀 which is good enough to use for people who are not wanting to use a variety of Linux distributions and just wanted to stay with something less difficult to use.

Pros: Easy to use, works like a charm,

Cons: out of date package manager, does not let you use ‘sudo’ without using ‘su’ first.

I will review Fedora 9 when it comes out though I do hope it has some more innovations that come along with it, especially a better package manager, and a restricted manager.

CentOS 5.0 Review:

Friday, November 9th, 2007

CentOS 5.0 Review

First off, this review isn’t the easiest to do since I have tried so many other distributions before this one: Vector, Xubuntu 6.06 – 6.06.1, Ubuntu 6.06 – 7.10, Fedora 7, OpenSuSE 10.1 – 10.3, and now CentOS. Which if you count all of them up they add up to eleven!

Though I have used so many distributions I have been able to see the good and the bad in all of them. (good, bad)

CentOS was an easy install (1,0). However, I needed to add some kernel options (like noapic, pci=routeirq) to get the system to boot on my laptop (1,1). There were a few nice things that I noticed in this Linux distribution, including: ease of use (2,1), good graphics (3,1), and very good themes (4,1).

One weak point in CentOS is installing Nvidia drivers. I did the manual install from Nvidia and it took a while to find out how to stop (4,2). Booting CentOS is a very slow process without the extra kernel options for my particular computer (4,3).

So far the score is 4 good and 3 bad.

Next on my list of things to talk about is the interface. The interface of CentOS is not unlike any other GNOME desktop. It is always customizable (5,3), easy to look at(6,3), and easy to use(7,3). I mean easy to look at since it doesn’t look boring at all (8,3). Customizable is always a good thing (9,3) and since it’s easy to use, it will be able to bring you the preferred feeling that you have customized it (10,3). The only thing is that the interface if you have used it for a long time without configuring it so that you like can become a little bit boring, (10,4) though if you look at it for a little while you can see that its really almost like the Ubuntu panels (11,4).

Now the score is 11 for good 4 for not so good. I will now rate the ease of use, customizability, and ease to look at: overall a 5/5 on ease of use, 5/5 on customizability, and **3/5** for how the desktop is on the eyes.

Over all the final score on the CentOS is a 24/30. This is exactly 80%.

** Please leave a comment if you wish to comment on the ease of use to look at it. I only gave it a 3/5 because I have used this structure before and I am going to have to change it. **

2007/07/25 Virtual Containerization

Wednesday, July 25th, 2007

Here is a story from

Virtual Containerization

AlexGr alerts us to a piece by Jeff Gould up on Interop News. Quoting: “It’s becoming increasingly clear that the most important use of virtualization is not to consolidate hardware boxes but to protect applications from the vagaries of the operating environments they run on. It’s all about ‘containerization,’ to employ a really ugly but useful word. Until fairly recently this was anything but the consensus view. On the contrary, the idea that virtualization is mostly about consolidation has been conventional wisdom ever since IDC started touting VMware’s roaring success as one of the reasons behind last year’s slowdown in server hardware sales.”

Here is the full story from Interopt News

It’s becoming increasingly clear that the most important use of virtualization is not to consolidate hardware boxes but to protect applications from the vagaries of the operating environments they run on. It’s all about “containerization,” to employ a really ugly but useful word.

Until fairly recently this was anything but the consensus view. On the contrary, the idea that virtualization is mostly about consolidation has been conventional wisdom ever since IDC started touting VMware’s roaring success as one of the reasons behind last year’s slowdown in server hardware sales. After all, if a copy of VMware ESX lets you replace four or five boxes with just one, some hapless hardware vendor has got to be left holding the bag, right? Ever since this virtualization-kills-the-hardware-star meme got started, Wall Street has been in something of a funk about server hardware stocks.

But if the meme is really true, why did Intel just invest $218.5 million in VMware? Does Craig Barrett have a death wish? Or maybe he knows something IDC doesn’t? There has got to be a little head scratching going on over in Framingham just now.

The obvious explanation for Barrett’s investment (which will net Intel a measly 2.5% of VMware’s shares after the forthcoming IPO) is that Intel believes virtualization will cause people to buy more, not less, hardware. This thesis was forcefully articulated on the day of the Intel announcement by the CEO of software startup rPath, Billy Marshall, in a clever blog post that also – naturally – makes the case for his own product. I had a chat with Marshall a few days ago and found what he had to say quite interesting.

Simply put, Marshall’s thesis is that “sales of computers, especially server computers, are currently constrained by the complexity of software.” Anything that makes that complexity go down will make hardware sales (and, one presumes, operating systems sales) go up. Right now it’s so blinking hard to install applications, operating systems and their middleware stacks that once people get an installation up and running they don’t want to touch it again for love or money. But if you install your app stack on a virtual machine – VMware, Xen, or Microsoft – then you can save the result as simple image file. After that, you’re free to do whatever you want with it. You can archive the image on your SAN and deploy it as needed. You can let people download it from your web site. Or you can put it on a CD and mail it to your branch office in Timbuktu or Oshkosh. Anyone will be able to take this collection of bits and install it on the appropriate virtual machine in their own local environment without having to undergo the usual hell of installation and configuration.

This idea of using virtual machine images as a distribution mechanism for fully integrated application stacks is not new. VMware has a Virtual Appliance Marketplace with hundreds of apps available for download. You won’t find Oracle 10g or BEA WebLogic or MySAP here, at least not yet. But you will find plenty of stuff from open source projects and smaller commercial ISVs (independent software vendors). Microsoft also has a download page for pre-configured VDH images of most of its major pieces of server software, including SQL Server 2005 and Exchange Server 2007.

So what does rPath add to the mix? Although Marshall has cleverly hitched his pitch to the virtualization bandwagon, he is actually in a somewhat different business, namely that of providing a roll-your-own-Linux toolkit and update service for ISVs. Marshall likes to recount the following anecdote to explain his value-add. When open source e-mail vendor Zimbra wanted to package its software in VMware disk image format using RHEL clone Centos as the OS, the install snapshot produced a monstrous 2 gigabyte file. You could fit that on a DVD, but this is clearly not in CD territory anymore, and maybe not so convenient to download over a garden variety DSL connection either. The problem is that a fully populated OS drags along huge excess code baggage that a typical application just doesn’t need. In the case of Zimbra, the excess added up to many hundreds of megabytes.

rPath’s solution is to use its own stripped-down and customized Linux distribution. It provides its own collection of Linux kernel and user space components along with a tool called rBuilder for deciding exactly which pieces are necessary to run a particular application. This is not a totally automated process – ISVs will have to roll up their sleeves and make some choices. But when the process is complete, rBuilder will generate a finished image file containing a fully integrated OS-middleware-application stack. This is what rPath calls a software appliance. The appliance can be packaged for any of the major target virtual machines, or for an actual install on raw Intel-based hardware. When Zimbra applied rBuilder to its application stack, swapping out Centos for a custom build of rPath Linux, the resulting VMware image shrank to only 350 megabytes.

In addition to eliminating installation and configuration hell for end users, rPath gives ISVs a platform similar to Red Hat Network for managing the distribution of application updates and OS patches. If rPath releases an OS patch for its version of Linux that the ISV determines is not needed by the ISV’s customers, then the patch doesn’t get distributed to them. This two-stage model is a lot more sensible than the Red Hat system of distributing all patches to everyone and then letting users discover for themselves whether a particular OS patch breaks their application.

rPath was launched at LinuxWorld last year and has already gone through a couple of version updates. Marshall didn’t come up with the vision for his company out of thin air. It’s based in large part on the insight he gained during a multi-year stint in the belly of the beast at Red Hat. In fact, a lot of his team are ex-Red Hatters. Marshall himself put in a couple of years as VP of Sales, and before that he was the guiding light behind the launch of the Red Hat Network provisioning and management platform. His CTO Erik Troan developed the Red Hat Package Manager (RPM) tool at the heart of RHEL and Fedora. Another rPath engineer, Matthew Wilson, wrote Red Hat’s Anaconda installation tool.

These people obviously know a thing or two when it comes to building and maintaining a Linux distribution. Their product concept is ingenious. The question is whether it’s big enough to make a stand-alone company. Right now it’s too early to tell.

There are a couple of real drawbacks to rPath from the end user’s point of view. One is that only Linux stacks are supported. If you are running a Microsoft stack, you’re out of luck. To be fair, you can run your rPath stack on top of Microsoft Virtual Server, and no doubt on the future Viridian hypervisor too. But if you were using just the unadorned VMware image format as your container rather than rPath you could run pretty much any OS stack you pleased.

Another drawback is that even in a pure Linux context, an rPath software appliance can’t use a particular piece of commercial software unless the ISV is an rPath customer. rPath’s basic business model is to sell tools and platforms to ISVs. The rPath appliances available now are mostly pure open source stacks, some commercial and some community. But there is no Oracle database or BEA or IBM middleware, which is a pretty big limitation in the real world of corporate data centers. Marshall does say he is involved in “deep discussions” with BEA, so maybe there will be some movement on this front at some point in the future. But for now it’s wait and see.

What it all boils down to is how credible the rPath Linux distribution can be in the eyes of the ISVs who consider using it. rPath politely avoids using the word “port,” but that is really what an ISV has to do to get its application running on rPath. An ISV that can afford to drop the other platforms it supports and serve its products up only on rPath will reap the full benefits of the system. But big commercial ISVs with big legacy installed bases won’t be able to take such a radical step. Marshall’s spin on this delicate issue seems to be that enterprise ISVs should leverage the end user ease-of-installation benefits of its platform to expand into Small and Medium Business markets where tolerance for complexity is much lower. Of course one could take this argument a step further – which the company for the moment is not willing to do – and say that rPath’s natural home is in the embedded market, just like Debian founder Ian Murdock’s now defunct Progeny (don’t worry about Ian, he landed at Sun).

At the end of the day, I have to wonder whether rPath wouldn’t make itself a lot more credible in the eyes of its ISV target customers by becoming part of a larger software organization. Red Hat obviously comes to mind as a possible home, assuming Red Hat management could swallow its pride enough to buy back the innovation of its ex-employees. But another possibility would be… Oracle. After all, if Larry really wants to get RHEL out of his stack, what better way to do it than to add an entirely free and unencumbered RHEL-like distro to the bottom of every Oracle stack?

Be all that as it may, there is one thing about the rPath concept that really, really intrigues me. What is to prevent Microsoft from trying this? If ISVs had a convenient way to package up highly efficient custom builds of Windows Server 2008 together with key Microsoft or third party applications for the Viridian hypervisor, the idea would be wildly popular. Will it happen? Let’s wait and see what happens after WS 2008 comes out.

Copyright © 2007, Peerstone Research Inc. All rights reserved.

That is all for today and this Came out at 12:10 PM PST

2007/07/20 How to install azureus with Yum

Thursday, July 19th, 2007

Here we are again with a installation with yum.

first of all you need to have yum.

second of all you need to open terminal

thirdly type in ‘su’ into the terminal

Fourth type in your password

fifth type in ‘yum install azureus’

sixth type ‘Y’ when the terminal asks you if you still want the download

seventh let the installation move forward til its complete.

eighth you now have azureus so you can use it as a bit torrent client.

ninth type into terminal azureus

its a little slow on a plugin. though it should work.

2007/07/19 How to install Thunderbird in Command line with yum

Thursday, July 19th, 2007

Well here we are again with another Fedora 7 CLi (command line) installation of a executable.

First of all you need a linux client that supports YUM (ie Redhat, Fedora)

1) open terminal

2) type ‘su’

3) type your password

4) type ‘yum install thunderbird’

5) when terminal asks you if its ok to download 23 MB (MegaBytes) of the executable type in ‘y’

6) Terminal will download all the packages and dependencies then will install.

7) after it completes type in the terminal ‘thunderbird’ to run the program.

8) Set up the email client so that it collects your mail.

9) Your done!

Update to Yesterdays post on How to install Synaptic with yum:
as you have already have seen I have looked at the synaptic again and I have seen what there is in the Synaptic: Practically nothing since its for Debian Packages. I am getting this out a day late.

2007/07/18 How to install Synaptic Package Manager with Yum

Wednesday, July 18th, 2007

Here is how to install Synaptic Package Manger in yum

1) You need a linux distro that has yum

2) You need to have a window manager

3) open terminal

4) type su (superuser)

5) Type your password

6) Type yum install synaptic

7) wait for the packages to be installed

8) Type the command ‘clear’

9) type into the terminal ‘synaptic’

10) if there are any broken packages then go to  Edit>Fix Broken Packages

Now you have Synaptic Package Manager installed by you in CLi (Command Line) with yum.

2007/07/13 How to get MP3 Support in Rhythm Box!

Friday, July 13th, 2007

1) You need RhythmBox Music Player. (If you do not have it you will have to get it from your package manager (ie in ubuntu its synaptic in Kubuntu its Adept and in Fedora its Add/Remove Packages))

2) You need to go into your package manager and search for ‘GStreamer’.

3) Download all the GStreamer packages excluding the Development and debugging versions.

4) Install all the packages you downloaded.

5) load an MP3 into your library if you do not have one.

6) If you have an MP3 Play it!


Wasn’t that easy? There is a much harder method if you wanted to download and install them trough command line (CLI)

Though I prefer The package manager way since i do not know that much on the command line.

So if you are using RhythmBox you now have MP3 Support so you can play your MP3’s!

2007/07/12 Its BERYL Time!

Thursday, July 12th, 2007

I just started using beryl 2.1.1 which is great. When I last had it on Ubuntu Feisty Fawn (Ubuntu 7.04 latest one at the time of writing) I could not see the themes!!!! Now using Fedora 7 I have been able to get the themes and all the desktop effects! its so Awsome!

Here is what you need to get Beryl:
(1) a computer with a supported graphics card (My recommendation for a Graphics Cards are Nvidia… though AMDs’ ATI has said that they would put out better Drivers for their Linux 3D Acceleration, Intel Graphics also could work)
(2) Linux Operating system ( I do not know if Beryl will work in BSD)
(3) KDE or Gnome ( I am not sure that Beryl will work in any other Window Managers (Correct me if i am wrong via comments)
(4) a Command Line Client (Terminal) For advanced Users (as i do not recommend New users trying this out as it could break your machine) or a Package manager (Synaptic in Gnome or Adept (please correct me if i am wrong via comments) in KDE)
(5) The will power to Follow instructions (Something i sometimes lack)

Here is how to get BERYL then go to the wiki page to look up your distro if its supported, plus there maybe a place that says which graphic cards are supported.

Password is  LRBEY i know that you will get it! :)

2007/07/11 Ryan Orsers’ Laptop New Operating System

Wednesday, July 11th, 2007

I have just moved (on my laptop) from Windows Vista to Fedora 7. There was a lot of test trials on my laptop including but not limited to Mandriva (Formally called Mandrake) and PCLinuxOS.

Yesterday I put Fedora 7 on my Laptop as I was looking for some Operating System to boot…. Vista would not. So I booted up Gutsy Alpha 2 which I say is quite remarkable since still it is in Alpha…. But its Great! Then I tried Fedora 7 and I thought it boots up fast, makes the hardware run smoother and does not take up so much resources as Vista does.

Mandriva was the only Distro that worked with my hardware right out of the Box. So this means that i did not have to configure the Xorg.conf with Tom Dryer from and it was nice looking though along with its other distros like PCLinuxOS it has a great texture to its desktop and has nice looking icons and all that kind of stuff. It just did not feel right for it to be on my laptop. Mandriva also worked with my Graphics Card though Mandriva was using my Nvidia Drivers. The rest of the Distros that i tried defaulted to Mesa. Mandrivas’ Metisse (sorry if i spelled it wrong) 3d Window manager looked magnificent though it would have put a lot of ware and tear on my graphics. Though Metisse worked smoothly I was wondering if it would work with my BroadCom wireless card. Trust me I will try the next Mandriva and the next PCLinuxOS though I found that Fedora made my Computer run smoother and a lot faster.

So I have Decided to use Fedora which is very good though it has a few draw backs… it does not have Synaptic, and when I try to turn off Compiz I get the White Boxes….. Which is not very helpful. Though when I try to charge my Ipod it also stops charging after a while so i will have to fix that. I like Fedora a lot and I will be testing out Compiz Fusion when it comes out.

I will also be testing the New Ubuntu 7.10 along with what follows it. I may be using fedora for school next year, which is great … though if it crashes alot i may have to switch back to feisty or go to the new Gusty. I will be running VMware sometime with some new testing Distros. Anyways here is what you all have been waiting for! the Password:


Unscramble these to get the password.

Ryan Orser